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Step through the sleek, anonymous metal door of J.J. Abrams' Bad Robot Productions and you lot enter a world of memorabilia—the murderous Talky Tina doll from The Twilight Zone, rows of one-time VHS tapes labeled "Midnight Movies," a Vi Million Dollar Man board game, contrasted Godzillas. Just if you expect closely (we looked closely) you will run across a meticulous­ness to the madness: The props and tchotchkes are all dust-costless and carefully arranged. Those vintage 1970s Star Trek action figures aren't simply sitting there. They're posed. This stuff is well loved. It's clear that in improver to being one of the nearly gifted movie directors in the world, somehow the heir credible to both Steven Spielberg and George Lucas, Abrams is also a superfan.

That puts him in a precarious situation. He has inherited the ane mega­franchise to rule them all. Sure, this won't be the start time Abrams resurrects a beloved Enterprise. But … this is the saga. It'south i of the things that invented modern superfandom. And this is no reboot. With The Force Awakens, Abrams is marshaling the same actors, writers, designers, and fifty-fifty the same composer to reanimate the char­acters and themes that made the original Star Wars into, well, Star Wars. He loves those movies every bit much as you or whatsoever of your light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation-brained friends exercise. Simply when he first met those movies he was just an amateur. At present he must get the master.

No pressure, right? After all, the stakes are merely the future of the franchise that made Abrams a filmmaker; a mythology held precious by millions of people for four decades; and, oh, right, billions and billions of dollars in movies and merch over the next half century (at least). I sabbatum down with Abrams to ask him well-nigh balancing these competing (ahem) forces to tell an epic story from a long time ago and a galaxy far, far abroad. The lightsabers are fatigued; the coordi­nates for the jump to hyperspace are calculated. Can Abrams do it? Well, y'all know what Yoda said virtually merely trying.

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wired: How are you lot feeling? It seems like merely yesterday you were announced every bit the director of Episode VII .

j.j. Abrams: Good! It's a crazy affair, right? I can't wait for people to run into the movie. We've been baking this cake for a long time, and now it's time to serve it.

How much of The Forcefulness Awakens is geared toward welcoming people back to the Star Wars franchise versus starting something completely new? How do you strike a balance between those ii imperatives?

We wanted to tell a story that had its ain self-contained beginning, middle, and finish but at the same time, similar A New Hope, implied a history that preceded information technology and also hinted at a future to follow. When Star Wars beginning came out, it was a film that both allowed the audience to understand a new story simply also to infer all sorts of heady things that might be. In that first pic, Luke wasn't necessarily the son of Vader, he wasn't necessarily the brother of Leia, but it was all possible. The Strength Awakens has this incredible advantage, not merely of a passionate fan base but also of a backstory that is familiar to a lot of people. We've been able to use what came before in a very organic style, because we didn't have to reboot anything. We didn't have to come up up with a backstory that would brand sense; it'due south all there. Just these new characters, which Force is very much about, find themselves in new situations—so even if yous don't know anything about Star Wars, you lot're right there with them. If you lot are a fan of Star Wars, what they experience volition have added meaning.

You mapped out the story with Lawrence Kasdan, who cowrote The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi . He said recently that his own life experiences—and the bridge of time not working on Star Wars —readied him to work on this film. Were there moments from your life or your own work from which you drew inspiration?

Working with Larry definitely ties for first in terms of incredible experiences I've had with this project. Nosotros all accept our experiences with us from one project to the next, simply in this case, I never looked to describe from my past work. More than anything, I drew on personal experiences as cautionary tales, things that I didn't want to do once again. For example, I didn't want to enter into making a movie where we didn't really own our story. I feel like I've done that a couple of times in my career. That'southward non to say I'm not proud of my piece of work, but the fact is I call back starting to shoot Super 8 and Star Expedition Into Darkness and feeling similar I hadn't actually solved some key story issues.

The collaboration, for me, was an education in storytelling and doing so with clarity, with efficiency, brevity—wit. It was a petty similar taking an extended chief course. And because he's also a director, he knew what I was going through in prep and in product, and he allowed for my needs. Sometimes those needs were practical, other times they were creative needs or feelings I had. But he was there to help that process, the aforementioned way I would have been if I had known he was directing. Information technology was e'er nigh moving this affair forward in the right way, about making this movie the right style. I can't say plenty about him.

So I tried to not forget the mistakes I'd made, but I likewise tried to focus on things that I find inspiring almost cinema. I asked questions like "How do we make this film delightful?" That was actually the only requirement Larry and I imposed on each other: The movie needed to be delightful. It was not about explaining everything away, not about introducing a certain number of toys for a corporation, not nearly trying to appease anyone. This has only ever been nigh what gets u.s. excited.

Well, information technology comes through in the trailers.
I call back waking upward on Black Friday last year, my wife shoving her iPhone in my sleeping face. I heard the music and shot awake—I felt that excitement.

That'south great. What I'm excited about is that the movie itself feels like those teasers and not similar the pic is 1 matter and the teasers are something else.

One matter I know most you is that you lot love a mystery. Y'all beloved to surprise an audience. How have y'all felt well-nigh those teasers—nearly revealing parts of the flick, necessarily talking well-nigh and marketing it, versus allowing the story to unfold on your terms?

I give credit to, and bluntly surprisingly so, the incredible people at Disney, especially Alan Horn [chair of Walt Disney Studios] and Bob Iger [Disney CEO]. Bob'south been unbelievably collaborative and supportive of this entire process. When information technology came to marketing, I was expecting Disney to want to put out an glut of textile. Simply they've been incredibly reluctant to do that. They want this affair to be an experience for people when they go to come across the film. And I'm grateful for that.

At that place's a really positive side to keeping quiet. You tin protect the audition from spoilers or certain moments that, in a way, obviate the flick experience. But on the other mitt, you hazard being seen as coy or as a withholding shithead. That'due south never my intent. Considering Lucasfilm has been and then engaged with the fans and and then forthcoming about what they're doing, it would take felt oddly inconsistent to non show anything until just before the movie came out. I actually personally pushed to accept a teaser come out a yr earlier, just considering information technology felt like, as a fan of Star Wars, if I could encounter even the littlest thing I'd be psyched a year out. Why non? Then we did.

But I don't want to destroy too many illusions. We're walking a tightrope. If yous fall on 1 side it'southward no skilful, because we're showing too much. If y'all fall on the other side it'south no expert, because we're not showing anything and we look like arrogant jerks.

Is it gut? Where's the residue?

You just have to kind of enquire yourself at every turn, at every convention, at every opportunity, every promotion, "What feels right?" Of course, with this motion-picture show there are more licensing and merchandising balls to juggle than I've ever experienced. There are and so many things, each one a lilliputian scrap of a window into the story. Information technology's not just about what piece y'all put out for a talk show. This is also about: Well, what does that character say as a toy in that particular line of action figures, as opposed to that i? Nosotros desire to preserve some of the rarefied air of the bodily experience and not open all the windows so information technology all merely gets depleted.

You can see how the universe gets so big so chop-chop, start toys and games and then Episode VIII and IX , with directors Rian Johnson and Colin Trevorrow coming aboard. I know VIII is Rian'southward flick, just you've no doubt created story questions in Episode Seven that take to be addressed. Do yous know how the answers play out? Or are those moments still unspooling?

The script for Viii is written. I'm sure rewrites are going to exist endless, like they always are. Merely what Larry and I did was gear up upward certain key relationships, sure primal questions, conflicts. And we knew where sure things were going. Nosotros had meetings with Rian and Ram Bergman, the producer of 8. They were watching dailies when we were shooting our movie. Nosotros wanted them to be office of the process, to make the transition to their film every bit seamless every bit possible. I showed Rian an early on cut of the pic, because I knew he was doing his rewrite and prepping. And as executive producer of VIII, I demand that movie to exist actually good. Withholding serves no one and certainly not the fans. And so we've been equally transparent as possible.

Rian has asked for a couple of things hither and there that he needs for his story. He is an incredibly accomplished filmmaker and an incredibly strong writer. So the story he told took what we were doing and went in the direction that he felt was best but that is very much in line with what we were thinking every bit well. Just y'all're right—that will be his movie; he'southward going to exercise it in the way he sees fit. He's neither asking for nor does he need me to oversee the process.

When y'all look back at the original trilogy, are there sure scenes that stand out to y'all?

Information technology would be a much shorter chat to talk almost the scenes that didn't stand out. Equally a fan of Star Wars, I can look at those movies and both respect and beloved what they've done. Just working on The Forcefulness Awakens, nosotros've had to consider them in a slightly different context. For case, it's very piece of cake to love "I am your male parent." Just when you lot retrieve near how and when and where that came, I'm non sure that fifty-fifty Star Wars itself could accept supported that story indicate had it existed in the beginning motion-picture show, Episode IV. Meaning: It was a massively powerful, instantly classic moment in moving-picture show history, but it was but possible because it stood on the shoulders of the pic that came before it. In that location had been a couple of years to let the idea of Darth Vader to sink in, to let him emerge as i of the greatest movie villains always. Time built upward everyone's expectations about the impending disharmonize betwixt Luke and Vader. If "I am your father" had been in the get-go picture, I don't know if information technology would have had the resonance. I really don't know if it would have worked.

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A squadron of X-wing fighters flies low, with strike-foils open up and prepared for attack. ©Lucasfilm 2015

Nosotros are making the showtime in a new trilogy of movies, and information technology'southward non very often that y'all become to work on something where you lot know there's a continuum, where you know information technology's basically part seven of nine—at least. That's a very interesting manner to arroyo a story, and it'southward kind of great. It unburdens y'all. That'southward one of the gifts the original Star Wars gives so generously: When you lot sentinel the film the beginning time, you don't know exactly what the Empire is trying to do. You know they want to command by fright and yous know they desire to take over, just you lot don't really know all their plans. You lot don't really understand what it would be similar for Luke to get a Jedi, let alone who his begetter was. You lot don't really know what the Clone Wars were, or what the Republic was really nearly or what it looked like. All of those massive story elements are simply brushstrokes in A New Hope. In 1977, none of those things were clear to anyone and perchance not even entirely to George Lucas.

I cannot say enough about what George was able to do with that first movie, let alone the next ones. Forget how incredible it looked, forget the technology, forget the sense of humor of it, the center, the romance, the adventure—all the amazing moments that made us love it. Retrieve most what he was able to stir up, the questions he was able to inquire—exactly the right questions—the idea that he was able to create a world that clearly went so far across the boundaries of what we were seeing and hearing. This, to me, is one of the greatest things near Star Wars. Working on this new movie has been every bit much about trying to set up elements of what is across what you're seeing as it has been most telling a story that will be satisfying in and of itself. Just it tin can't feel like a cop-out—similar we're just setting things up and non resolving them.

Simply with a universe that vast, you take to think about constraint, right? You lot clearly have enjoyed a healthy upkeep and have had a big globe to go invent. Were there particular limitations you wanted to put on either the procedure or the story, something that would help you focus on those goals?

I find that I am nigh happy when I accept boundaries. With Lost, when ABC chairman Lloyd Braun called to say he wanted me to come upwards with a show well-nigh people who survive a plane crash, I remember thinking, "Well, I will come upwardly with that," and I did—very, very speedily. What was peachy was he had given me a very specific consignment. Then when I chosen him back and told him my thoughts, they were far weirder than what he would take ever expected. He was basically thinking about doing a kind of castaway show. But the constraint he imposed allowed the weirdness to kind of feel like fertile ground. Weirdness within limits, you know? If it had been un-express—if he had called and said, come upward with a weird show—I would have thought, I don't know! What does that even mean?

Star Wars is and then dizzying in terms of the world, the characters, the conflicts. When we began working on this motion picture, Larry and I started past making a listing of things that nosotros knew held interest for u.s., the things we wanted to run into, the things we felt were important. There's a very real issue with doing this movie: Every detail, whether information technology was the design of a costume or the music or a set-dressing choice, must be embraced as coming from Star Wars. You lot're inheriting Star Wars! That's not something you tin do lightly. You take to really understand the design choices, because everything is important. At the same time, information technology'south simply Star Wars, meaning: It doesn't get in automatically interesting simply because it'south in that galaxy.

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Daisy Ridley (Rey) is i of a scattering of immature actors charged with creating icons for a new generation of Star Wars stories. ©Lucasfilm 2015

For case, when we were on-prepare and we were shooting a scene, it was e'er amazing to me to see Harrison Ford dressed as Han Solo. Or, wow, there'due south a guy—a stormtrooper!—and he looks exactly like a stormtrooper. Remember the feeling of the villain stepping off his send? Or the sound of the TIE fighters when they roar by you? Nosotros've all seen Necktie fighters roar past us at present for almost forty years; what makes that interesting? The signal is, these scenes aren't good just considering those characters or things are in that location, fifty-fifty though it'due south the greatest center candy in the history of time.

We really tried to await at it from the inside out. What makes this story have a beating center? What makes it romantic or fun or surprising or heartbreaking or hysterically funny? We just approached this narrative from the point of view that this is a story about a young human and a immature woman, not with the idea that nosotros can do anything nosotros want.

I loved the anecdote in The New Yorker 'southward Jony Ive profile about you 2 brainstorming the blueprint of Kylo's "spitty" lightsaber. Little details like that—or Threepio's red arm or the Falcon 's at present-rectangular dish—bulldoze the states fans crazy wanting to know what'due south happened between Jedi and Force . How did you work with the design team; how did you go virtually tackling the production design?

It all started at the very showtime, when we were working with Michael Arndt, the starting time writer on the project. While Michael and I were collaborating, I invited our production designer, Rick Carter, into the story procedure. But as it would be impossible to separate John Williams' score from the Star Wars movies, information technology was impossible to separate what Ralph McQuarrie and his blueprint squad had done from A New Hope. My sense was that the sooner Rick could exist part of the procedure, the amend. He'south an incredible dreamer; his mind volition go amazing places and dream upward things yous never would have imagined.

Very chop-chop, it became an incredible advantage to accept Rick dealing with the designers and artists, prepping the conceptual work based on our story meetings. Virtually immediately, designs would beginning to roll in that gave shape to the ideas we were working on. Moments like Threepio's arm came from the desire to, well, marker time.

It's about like …

Unknown events have transpired …

Exactly. You know the moment when you reconnect with someone after years apart? You see the lines on their face, yous recollect, oh, they've lived x years! Or when y'all see someone has a scar they didn't have—physical or emotional—you recognize it. It lets you lot know it's not two minutes later. It was of import that Han Solo be Han Solo but non feel similar he's playing a 30-year-one-time dude. When you're lxx, you volition accept lived a different gear up of experiences. That has to be credible in who he is. Harrison was required to bring a level of complexity that a xxx-year-old Han wouldn't be required to have.

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Stormtroopers and Ten-wings may be the greatest heart processed in the globe, only Abrams knows the story still has to work. ©Lucasfilm 2015

So there were things similar the radar dish on the Falcon, which clearly was ripped off in Jedi, and so it needed a new one. Simply part of the decision was fabricated equally a fan. There'southward a part of me that wants to know: That's the Falcon from this era. Now I know that when I run across the Falcon with the rectangular dish, we're at a moment later it traded hands. It besides helped us mark time.

And so: John Williams!

Oh my God! Starting time of all, forget his talent and his achievement. As a person, he's the guy you want to know more than anyone. He is the sweetest soul I've ever met. He's similar this jazzman who became one of the greatest composers of all time. He literally calls you "infant"! Similar, "Hey, baby." He calls me "J.J. Baby." I waited all my life to meet someone who would call me that!

He works in pencil. You lot become to his abode and mind to him play notes on the piano, and while you're listening, you extrapolate what it will be like when you hear the melody with an orchestra. It is unforgettable, a truly miraculous thing to behold. He has every ane of his scores leather-spring. I was similar, "Exercise y'all mind if I …?" He goes, "No, go ahead!" So I pulled out the Jaws score, and sure enough, at that place it is, in pencil on paper: baaaa-bum, baaaa-bum. Y'all're like, "Well, that's what he wrote!" It's every bit if y'all're hanging out with Mozart, who happened to score your favorite movies.

I know everybody knows this, merely when you really think nearly what he'south composed, information technology is as of import as any piece of work ever washed on whatsoever of those movies. When you think almost Superman and Raiders and Jaws and Close Encounters—which came out the same twelvemonth as Star Wars—and and then the Harry Potter movies? He is just superhuman. Information technology'southward unbelievable that he is as brilliant and notwithstanding every bit modest as he is. It'southward merely an amazing thing to get to know that guy.

A lot of this cast wasn't even born in 1977. How do yous relay the legacy of what Star Wars means to people similar you and me? Or is that a burden that you try to avoid?

It's a really strange matter, when y'all retrieve about beingness born into a world where it only exists. Despite their having been built-in horrifically recently, these kids knew about and understood Star Wars in a mode nosotros all do; they just were born into information technology as opposed to it happening during their lifetime. The key in casting them was finding people who were able to do everything. When y'all think about all that these characters get through, not just in this movie
but knowing their work would proceed, these individuals needed to be worthy bearers of this burden and opportunity to go on to tell the story. I call up about the Harry Potter movies—that's unbelievable that they cast those films the way they did. And for what, eight movies?! That was a miracle. They needed to be able to exercise everything, and they all killed it.

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Kylo Ren: The dark side is strong with this one. ©Lucasfilm 2015

Nosotros knew we weren't just casting i movie—nosotros were casting at to the lowest degree three. That, to me, was the biggest claiming. When we met Daisy Ridley, when we institute John Boyega, so Oscar Isaac and Adam Driver came aboard, we got actually excited. And yeah, Daisy and John could piece of work together, but what happens when Harrison's in the mix? What volition that experience similar? If it doesn't spark, it's a fucking disaster. Yeah, BB-8 is a great character, amazingly puppeteered, but what will happen when he's all of a sudden in a scene with C-3P0 or R2-D2? Will it feel bizarre? Will information technology feel wrong? Somehow it didn't. When Anthony Daniels told me, "Oh my God, I love BB-8!" I said, "We're going to exist OK." Because if he'due south OK, it's working.

C-3P0 approves.

Or seeing the sweet between Han and Rey or the tension and comedy between Han and Finn. Information technology was really exciting to say, "These scenes are working!" We worked really hard to bandage and to write and to put it all together, merely you lot only don't know until y'all showtime shooting. Then all of a sudden, you're on-ready watching it and you know. It's a niggling bit like having a party and having friends from your new school run into friends from your old school, and you retrieve, "What's going to happen?" And all of a sudden they're getting along famously and this political party's really fun! It was a lot of work, just it ended up being great.

So what's next? I know you were thinking upwards all-new, original ideas when Kathy Kennedy start called you lot for this chore.

My mom used to do this affair where we'd be eating lunch and she'd say, "Then what do yous want for dinner?" And I'd say, "Mom! Nosotros're eating dejeuner. We're literally just starting to eat lunch." I feel like I just demand to cease my lunch. Right now, I just want to get this film into the world.

This article is from the December 2015 issue of the mag.

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